Warnings that Donald Trump was creating an authoritarian movement were dismissed. Now, that movement is holding the nation hostage. We have no choice but to take it on.
Jesus, listening to Trump is just exhausting. "Yeah, the DEA found a ton of cocaine in my basement, but look at how sloppily they stacked the bricks in their press conference!"
I've seen this a thousand times in any attempt to argue rationally with right-wingers, they always have a comeback, and it's always totally irrelevant to the question and always an obvious attempt at "Hey, look over there!" Like this is all a game, and the only object is to hit the ball back over the net.
That said, I'm actually quite pleased at how, whenever these mooks get into a courtroom, where facts and evidence really do matter and there are penalties for lying, they've suddenly got nothin'. I think our legal system can handle these guys, if given half a chance.
You’re right, Jared, this has been building for a very long time. And yet, you’re wrong. We’re not being held hostage at all.
I was just musing how Charley Manson (1969) and (alleged) recent Buffalo shooter, Payton Gendron, both wanted to start a race war.
But I’m old enough to remember when the shoe was on the other foot. To remember hearing Bernadine Dohrn read The Weather Underground’s recorded “Declaration of a State of War” against the United States Government, broadcast on KPFA here in Berkeley, May of 1970.
Hearing her voice say that I and other long-haired, dope-smoking, freaks were becoming armed radicals, making love and loading guns in our communes and dorm rooms, getting ready for an armed insurrection — was my first clue that the WUO (Weather Underground Organization) was full of shit. Most likely a covertly handled counter-intelligence operation being steered to discredit the Left.
It is actually quite easy to “handle” idealistic firebrands by steering them toward violent actions in line with their agendas that subsequently reap counter-revolutionary social consequences.
YES, that is, indeed, a genuine “conspiracy theory” — lacking any evidence short of the obvious fact that, as reported by mainstream media of the time , everything the Weather Underground succeeded in doing also did just that. All while simultaneously “evading” the FBI for 11 years, and only then turning themselves in after “prosecutorial misconduct” (aka COINTELPRO) insured they would not be held legally accountable for anything more than misdemeanors.
Follow the WUO with Donald DeFreeze’s Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA — motto — “DEATH TO THE FASCIST INSECT THAT PRAYS UPON THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE!”), whose first act of “radicalism” (November 1973) was to murder a black Oakland school superintendent (with cyanide filled hollow-points no less) —— and THEN abduct heiress Patty Hearst (February 1974) from her apartment, about a half block from where I sit today —— and THEN “evade” the FBI till May of 1974 (Hearst captured, September 1975). No wonder everyone voted for Regan in 1980, eh?
Given all that happened one might begin to think the FBI were incompetent!
Or — as I do — that the best way to thwart a revolution is to lead it (clandestinely, of course).
But the whole concept of armed “Revolution” is stupid to begin with — THEN and NOW.
I remember sitting in a coffee house not long after the Hearst abduction, with a red-diaper young man from NYC, telling me how “we” were going to overthrow the government via armed revolution.
I literally laughed in his face. I grew up in the country and learned to shoot before I could ride a two-wheel bike. I doubt this long haired Jewish boy had ever even held a gun, let alone fired one. I said something to the effect, “If you think the US Military is going to let “us” take control of “them” you are totally delusional!”
When Trump lost the election but claimed he’d won, the building manager here where I live (originally from Iraq) asked me what I thought was going to happen.
I said, “There’s going to be blood in the streets, that’s what.” I hadn’t anticipated blood in the Capitol. Like everyone, it never occurred to me they’d even get that far. Malcom Nance is right about their white-skin camouflage.
I went on, “But I’m not too worried. Trump doesn’t have the military on his side. A few within its ranks, perhaps, but mostly not. And his Putin propaganda fed mega-MAGA-moron sleeper cels ain’t no match for them — AK-47s or whatever be damned.”
But are we being held hostage? Or are we just oblivious to what’s actually going on — which is much, much bigger?
For sure most of the Democrats don’t want to see a blood bath, even if most of the Republicans don’t give a shit — hell, would be happy to see it. But fact is, with few exceptions, most of the MAGA-morons are cowards, and stupid to boot. I know, I grew up with them. Shit for brains. Most of ‘em ain’t gonna do shit but a lot of holler’n even if Trump is indicted, arrested, tried, convicted, and incarcerated.
But, you see, what has to happen before any of that is the handled president’s handler has to be handled. — That’s what’s REALLY going on.
Jesus, listening to Trump is just exhausting. "Yeah, the DEA found a ton of cocaine in my basement, but look at how sloppily they stacked the bricks in their press conference!"
I've seen this a thousand times in any attempt to argue rationally with right-wingers, they always have a comeback, and it's always totally irrelevant to the question and always an obvious attempt at "Hey, look over there!" Like this is all a game, and the only object is to hit the ball back over the net.
That said, I'm actually quite pleased at how, whenever these mooks get into a courtroom, where facts and evidence really do matter and there are penalties for lying, they've suddenly got nothin'. I think our legal system can handle these guys, if given half a chance.
You’re right, Jared, this has been building for a very long time. And yet, you’re wrong. We’re not being held hostage at all.
I was just musing how Charley Manson (1969) and (alleged) recent Buffalo shooter, Payton Gendron, both wanted to start a race war.
But I’m old enough to remember when the shoe was on the other foot. To remember hearing Bernadine Dohrn read The Weather Underground’s recorded “Declaration of a State of War” against the United States Government, broadcast on KPFA here in Berkeley, May of 1970.
Hearing her voice say that I and other long-haired, dope-smoking, freaks were becoming armed radicals, making love and loading guns in our communes and dorm rooms, getting ready for an armed insurrection — was my first clue that the WUO (Weather Underground Organization) was full of shit. Most likely a covertly handled counter-intelligence operation being steered to discredit the Left.
It is actually quite easy to “handle” idealistic firebrands by steering them toward violent actions in line with their agendas that subsequently reap counter-revolutionary social consequences.
YES, that is, indeed, a genuine “conspiracy theory” — lacking any evidence short of the obvious fact that, as reported by mainstream media of the time , everything the Weather Underground succeeded in doing also did just that. All while simultaneously “evading” the FBI for 11 years, and only then turning themselves in after “prosecutorial misconduct” (aka COINTELPRO) insured they would not be held legally accountable for anything more than misdemeanors.
Follow the WUO with Donald DeFreeze’s Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA — motto — “DEATH TO THE FASCIST INSECT THAT PRAYS UPON THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE!”), whose first act of “radicalism” (November 1973) was to murder a black Oakland school superintendent (with cyanide filled hollow-points no less) —— and THEN abduct heiress Patty Hearst (February 1974) from her apartment, about a half block from where I sit today —— and THEN “evade” the FBI till May of 1974 (Hearst captured, September 1975). No wonder everyone voted for Regan in 1980, eh?
Given all that happened one might begin to think the FBI were incompetent!
Or — as I do — that the best way to thwart a revolution is to lead it (clandestinely, of course).
But the whole concept of armed “Revolution” is stupid to begin with — THEN and NOW.
I remember sitting in a coffee house not long after the Hearst abduction, with a red-diaper young man from NYC, telling me how “we” were going to overthrow the government via armed revolution.
I literally laughed in his face. I grew up in the country and learned to shoot before I could ride a two-wheel bike. I doubt this long haired Jewish boy had ever even held a gun, let alone fired one. I said something to the effect, “If you think the US Military is going to let “us” take control of “them” you are totally delusional!”
When Trump lost the election but claimed he’d won, the building manager here where I live (originally from Iraq) asked me what I thought was going to happen.
I said, “There’s going to be blood in the streets, that’s what.” I hadn’t anticipated blood in the Capitol. Like everyone, it never occurred to me they’d even get that far. Malcom Nance is right about their white-skin camouflage.
I went on, “But I’m not too worried. Trump doesn’t have the military on his side. A few within its ranks, perhaps, but mostly not. And his Putin propaganda fed mega-MAGA-moron sleeper cels ain’t no match for them — AK-47s or whatever be damned.”
But are we being held hostage? Or are we just oblivious to what’s actually going on — which is much, much bigger?
For sure most of the Democrats don’t want to see a blood bath, even if most of the Republicans don’t give a shit — hell, would be happy to see it. But fact is, with few exceptions, most of the MAGA-morons are cowards, and stupid to boot. I know, I grew up with them. Shit for brains. Most of ‘em ain’t gonna do shit but a lot of holler’n even if Trump is indicted, arrested, tried, convicted, and incarcerated.
But, you see, what has to happen before any of that is the handled president’s handler has to be handled. — That’s what’s REALLY going on.